ADHD, Entrepreneurship, and Mindfulness: An Unconventional Path to Success
From ADHD to Mindfulness: Entrepreneur Rick Culleton's Journey to
Happiness
In this episode of Social Skills Coaching, host Russell welcomes
entrepreneur, author, and mindfulness advocate Rick Culleton. They delve
into Rick's life journey from growing up with ADHD, to his
entrepreneurial ventures across multiple countries, to his amazing
accidental sobriety story, and his ongoing pursuit of mindfulness and
happiness. Rick shares his experiences with meditation, creating a
'morning stack,' and the impact of cold plunges on his life. Tune in for
insights on building a successful team, overcoming personal struggles,
and living a fulfilling life.
00:00 Introduction
01:11 Rick Culleton's Background and Entrepreneurial Journey
02:29 Challenges and Experiences with ADHD
07:26 Building and Managing Successful Teams
14:52 Accidental Sobriety and Mindfulness Practices
21:24 Developing a Morning Routine for Success
26:25 Balancing Fitness and Recovery
27:19 The Importance of Techno Fasting
27:55 Optimizing Sleep and Recovery
29:37 Morning Routine Efficiency
32:26 Cold Plunge Benefits
34:08 Martial Arts Journey
41:02 Building a Morning Stack
44:16 Cold Plunge Alternatives
47:51 Influential Books and Final Thoughts
#SocialSkillsCoaching
#RickCulleton
#Entrepreneurship
#ADHD
#Mindfulness
#Happiness
#Sobriety
#Meditation
#MorningRoutine
#MorningStack
#ColdPlunge
#Fitness
#Recovery
#TechnoFasting
#SleepOptimization
#MartialArts
#PersonalGrowth
#SuccessMindset
#Leadership
#Productivity
#WellnessJourney
Transcript
whoa, wait a minute.
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:I, I'm not here to quit drinking.
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:I'm perfectly happy with
my alcohol consumption.
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:I've been drinking 38 years and
I have no intention to quit.
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:Finally they cut me loose at 17, gave
me a diploma and said, don't come back.
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:There's nothing like sparring
there, there's nothing that
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:brings you so in the moment.
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:I, I've not?
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:Found another thing that I.
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:Can do that makes me so focused.
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:you, you're just right there.
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:You have to be, there is
not a choice, you know?
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:Yeah.
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:I've got lots of great memories now.
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:If you can scrub away all the anxiety
and everything else that we have that's
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:just kind of layered up on top of us.
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:once you clean that slate,
you're left with happiness.
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:And that's what we're trying to show
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:wherever you are in life and whatever
you've been through, it has nothing
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:to do with where you're going.
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:past has no bearing on your future,
and you're free to change the direction
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:you're headed at any time you want.
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:Russell Newton: Hello listeners
and welcome back Social Skills
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:Coaching I'm your host Russell, and
our guest today is Rick Culleton.
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:Rick is an entrepreneur, an
author, and a mindfulness advocate.
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:And Rick, with just those three
descriptors, introduce us to
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:yourself and, tell us how each of
those fit into your approach to,
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:what we're gonna talk about today.
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:Rick Culleton: kind of all over the place.
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:I started life as an entrepreneur.
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:I'm working on my second book right now.
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:I've got businesses in the US and
Costa Rica, and I like to travel
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:and find myself all over the world.
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:Russell Newton: You
have a book already out.
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:Tell us about that.
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:Rick Culleton: my first book is Messed Up
Like You, and it's, it's about, growing
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:up and, and thriving with A DHD entering
the world of entrepreneurship and of the
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:pluses as well as the minuses of, of going
through life with, with A DHD and, and
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:the, you know, considering the, the way
people look at it, and a lot of it focuses
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:on childhood and what they try to do with
you and then moves on to young adulthood
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:and, and then having, a, an entrepreneur
with A DHD and all the benefits that.
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:go along with it.
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:And it's a story that's framed
around me getting my pilot's
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:license, which was a pretty unusual
thing to happen in the first place.
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:it's got some great stories in it and
it's inspirational probably to anybody
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:who's trying to get by with a DHD.
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:Russell Newton: So tell us what a DHD
is and let's start with, as a child,
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:because I don't think we have a real
understanding of some of the struggles
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:that, that, diagnosis brings, to,
to children and their development.
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:Rick Culleton: you know, as a child,
I think most of the problems I
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:had was the way that I was looked
at by, by others, by adults.
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:I didn't really, I don't think I
would've even realized that there was
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:an issue if someone hadn't told me.
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:But was younger, they called it.
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:ED in the seventies and it was,
I was attention deficit disorder
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:with an emphasis on hyperactive.
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:And I believe that for the most part, I
am now technically diagnosed as a DHD,
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:attention deficit, hyperactive disorder.
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:and that is primarily what the
diagnosis is across the board.
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:there's, there's some different, you know,
there's some varying degrees, but that's.
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:Pretty much all encompassing today.
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:And when I was a child, they
were all over the place.
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:should we medicate 'em?
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:Should we not medicate 'em,
put 'em in a special room.
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:one point in the third grade, they
moved me into an accelerated class
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:and put me with third and fourth
graders, the idea that I would skip
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:the fourth grade and go right into
the fifth grade, which didn't happen.
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:And I went from that class to the
fourth grade the next year where
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:they thought they should hold me
back and keep me there an extra year.
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:And then finally they cut me
loose at 17, gave me a diploma
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:and said, don't come back.
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:And so it was a bit of
a rollercoaster ride.
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:And, you know, again, I didn't
really see I had a problem learning.
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:I knew that I was all over the place,
but as a kid you didn't know that
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:everybody else wasn't too, so it
didn't really seem to me to be unusual.
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:I was just, I had a hard time focusing.
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:I'd easily become bored in class.
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:And the way this usually went was you'd
walk into the classroom, the teacher
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:would start to talk first day, first week.
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:And you would, feel that you're above and
beyond whatever It is they're teaching,
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:and this is just not entertaining at all.
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:And you zone out and then you
tune back in either at the end of
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:that class or a couple weeks from
there, and you realize that you're
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:completely lost and you have no idea
what algebra's all about after all.
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:And, you're struggling from there on out.
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:And that happened a lot.
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:Russell Newton: It is interesting
that, you knew you were diagnosed.
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:But it, I speak with people and you
hear frequently, we grew up poor,
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:but we didn't know we were poor.
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:So you grew up a DHD and you
knew, but it, it did wasn't
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:really an impact on your life.
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:I'm a, a late baby boomer, an
early Gen Xer by appearances.
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:so at that time it was very
different than it is now with,
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:diagnosis and medical treatment
and, and schooling in particular.
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:Rick Culleton: Yeah,
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:Russell Newton: accurate?
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:Rick Culleton: it was much different
and you know, they were still learning
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:how to deal with people like myself.
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:And, you know, I might've been a
little bit, the extreme end because
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:I was one, you know, now I think
there's a far greater percentage
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:of people diagnosed earlier on.
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:And at that point, I was in a school
that our grade had about a hundred
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:people in it maybe the only one.
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:At that time, I don't remember
anybody else being diagnosed, so it
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:was a much smaller pool of diagnosis,
and no real tools to deal with it.
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:It was like you just kind of shuffle
'em around, give them to somebody else.
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:The teachers in the beginning didn't
put, I don't even know that when I was
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:in that third, fourth grade situation
that there was a label put on me.
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:Yet it was just a problem kid.
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:You know, this guy's troubled, you
know, he's trouble in the hallways.
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:He doesn't learn in school.
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:He Is not living up to his potential.
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:those were the early diagnosis
as, troublemaker and, inattentive.
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:I think the formal diagnosis came
later on and suspicions arose.
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:I was never offered medication or anything
like that as a child I was probably nearly
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:40 years old before anyone ever suggested
I start taking any type of medication
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:and that was a very short-lived, trial.
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:Russell Newton: Again, for our listeners
that don't know and, and are interested,
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:a diagnosis like this, at least now with
the DSM five, I think is the current one.
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:that diagnosis is a very specific, list of
symptoms or activities that a person does.
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:And it is very clinical,
of course, by definition.
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:at that time, was that how
the diagnosis was made or was
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:it just he's outta control.
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:Let's call him a DD
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:Rick Culleton: of what I remember,
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:Russell Newton: Or were you aware that
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:Rick Culleton: most of what I remember
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:Russell Newton: Yeah.
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:Rick Culleton: have any
type of label on at all.
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:they were just trying to contain me,
keep me from causing any problems or
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:disrupting the rest of the school.
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:That was a primary objective.
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:They weren't really interested
in diagnosing what could
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:potentially be wrong.
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:Russell Newton: I taught
for 10 or 15 years.
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:started teaching in 19 84, 85 school year.
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:So that dates me.
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:and I remember the first parent I
had that came to me and said their
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:child had a learning disability.
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:And I was not schooled in any of that.
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:Of course, my degree in secondary
education, like many college
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:degrees, doesn't prepare you
for the occupation at all.
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:I had no training in what to do
with, anybody that had a learning
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:disability, even what they were.
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:So it took me completely by surprise,
my lack of experience, So maybe
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:that's why I'm hitting it a little
more deeply than we need to, or
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:that you'd like to at this point.
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:So I appreciate your candor with
that and sharing that information.
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:you are an entrepreneur.
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:You have several businesses, in
several countries it sounds like.
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:Are they related?
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:Are they a wide variety of things?
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:It sounds like you dabble
into a lot of different areas.
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:Rick Culleton: very similar at all.
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:And I deliberately look for things
that are, different challenges
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:to keep me entertained, you
know, and I prevent the boredom.
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:But my, oldest company I have
is about 20 years, 28 years old
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:now, and it's based in Texas.
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:We sell refurbished computer equipment,
a place called Discount electronics.com.
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:we still have retail stores, as well
as website sell online, and, I'm still
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:involved with that company every day.
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:I'm still the CEO and president,
although I take more of a marketing role.
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:That's the part that I enjoy the most.
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:I'm web developer some
days, firemen, others.
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:and over the last 20 years or so,
I've been investing in real estate and
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:opened a company in Austin that does
primarily, purchases, real estate,
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:Fixes it up, rents it out.
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:Commercial, residential,
multifamily, single family.
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:We've expanded that into Colorado
and a little bit into Costa Rica
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:where I got into the hotel business.
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:started with vacation rentals down
there, that I moved an operation from the
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:states into Costa Rica, and then later
changed the building type from homes
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:and apartments and such into hotels.
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:Russell Newton: are these businesses that
you, I mean, you're involved daily in
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:them it sounds like, are, these things
you developed to try and get to a point
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:where they would just go on their own
and you're looking for something new,
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:you find some reliable people to run that
business, or are you working 27 hours a
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:day to keep track of all these things?
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:Rick Culleton: I enjoy working, so it's,
a labor of love I have great people,
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:and I couldn't do this without them.
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:that's a big part of being
successful is to have the right team.
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:we've got some of the most
fantastic people both in the
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:United States and in Costa Rica.
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:the folks I work with, the
discount electronics, many of
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:'em have been there decades.
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:we're a family.
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:It's a small company, 30 employees.
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:we've all worked together for
a long time and I think we
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:all enjoy our jobs very much.
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:I've still got, one employee who's about
to hit the 10 year mark down there.
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:the hotel manager's been there
since the day we opened up one
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:of the hotels is on the beach.
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:It's a beautiful spot to be.
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:I'm not such an awful boss.
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:they've got a pretty good job
and they enjoy life down there.
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:And then the, the real estate company
is more of, on demand type thing, where
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:I'll, you know, we have tenants, we
manage a lot of that with software.
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:And then when we need people,
we sub out, we have regulars
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:that we sub to all the time.
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:One who used to be an employee who
now is a subcontractor that just
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:does his own thing and works for
me in a variety of other people.
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:but that's pretty much my work.
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:You know, my email is very interesting.
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:WhatsApp, you never know what's coming in.
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:You open that phone up and you
don't know what language it's gonna
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:be in, and you have absolutely
no idea what it's gonna be about.
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:But I guarantee every morning.
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:It's interesting.
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:Russell Newton: I imagine,
so some two things come from
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:that, those last few sentences.
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:Obviously, you're not a terrible boss.
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:If you've, if you've had people with that
kind of tenure within your organizations,
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:So two questions that may, I'm pretty
sure they, they dovetail into one another.
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:Building a team, finding the right
members for a team has, has to be crucial.
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:in any organization like that, you,
we hear frequently, you know, surround
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:yourself with the, the best people
and then let them do their job.
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:You know, hire the right person for
the right job and let them do the job.
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:how do you go about building that team?
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:What do you look for?
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:expand on that, and then when you
have a team together, obviously
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:you're doing some things very right
that keeps that team together.
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:Can you talk to both points?
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:Rick Culleton: to hiring, I, I really
look for self-motivated people.
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:I am not an over the
shoulder kind of boss.
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:I don't know where anybody is.
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:I don't know what time they
come to work, when they go home
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:or where they're working from.
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:And for that, you know, it just requires
somebody that's got self-discipline
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:that knows how to get the job done.
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:I don't care if you work
four hours or 12 hours.
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:I prefer you don't have
to work 12 hours and.
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:It's just a matter of getting
the job done, you figuring out
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:how to do it and getting results.
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:The hotel's a little bit different
in that, you know, we have places
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:there where people need to be, you
know, somebody's gotta be sitting at
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:reception, so there's a schedule and
they need to be there to check people in.
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:And, you know, it's a little bit different
hiring there because you need somebody
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:bilingual and there's a lot of other
requirements, but this kinda electronics
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:and most of the folks that have been there
long time, have had varied positions.
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:You know, they'll come in the door
as one thing, you know, one of my
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:favorite stories is a guy that we
hired outta the Home Depot to lay
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:bricks at the construction of a
new store back in:
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:And when we finished up, I gave everybody
a little bit extra money, thanked
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:them for the work, and said goodbye.
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:And the next day I came in when
the store opened and he was there.
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:And I said, well, you know,
Fernando, what are you doing here?
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:And we're done.
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:And he goes, no, I'm gonna work.
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:And I'm like, any work for you.
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:And he goes, I'll do whatever you need.
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:I'm like, well, I don't need anything.
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:He goes, you got this store.
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:Somebody's gotta work here.
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:Right?
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:and he barely spoke English at the time.
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:I'm like, you know, I, I'll find
something for you for now, but you
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:need to find a job It's now 2025.
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:That was 2010.
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:He is our number one computer technician.
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:He, he's never left, got married,
had some kids, and has turned
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:out to be quite the employee.
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:Russell Newton: Fantastic.
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:That, that's incredible.
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:From brick layer, to the computer
technician all within the same company.
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:That's a great story.
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:Rick Culleton: what anybody's capable
of until you give them a chance.
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:Russell Newton: that is exactly the truth.
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:And it's seeing that obviously he had
some tenacity to come back after the
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:brick laying was done and to put himself
in the open store, and ask for something.
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:But, you were able to see that in a person
and I find that, you kind of wanted.
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:To give him the credit for it, but
for someone to see that, to give them
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:the chance to encourage them, there
had to been some times where, you
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:went an extra step to make sure he was
educated or had the tools he needed
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:or learned the things he needed to do.
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:so developing an employee like that,
is that a part of your process?
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:Is that something you
consciously do or look to do?
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:Rick Culleton: for that, but Fernando
found his own way, and most of
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:my employees do, I'll give them
the way to make it on their own.
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:but I'm not there for handholding
and I'm not that type of leader.
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:I give them the space.
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:I tell them what's expected of them
and oftentimes what it is that I tell
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:them I'm expecting from them in the
beginning is not what the job entails
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:in just a few months or a year.
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:Most of the people that work
for me have had multiple jobs
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:except for possibly my CFO.
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:Just about everybody at that
company has moved around.
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:Oftentimes, we'll find someone in a
retail store that looks to have promise.
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:They'll be selling computers
in one of the stores.
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:And, I'll have some interaction with
them and say, this is somebody I think
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:we wanna bring in, move them over to the.
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:main building, and what they're gonna
do from there is anybody's guess.
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:then they kind of find their own way,
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:you like coding?
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:Do you wanna be a salesperson?
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:You know, what's your, what's your fancy.
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:Russell Newton: I, I'm not, I don't
wanna seem like I'm just flattering
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:you, but the mindset there is the top 95
percentile of bosses I've had and seen.
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:your employees obviously respond to that.
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:They stay with you.
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:they stick with an organization
because you make expectations clear.
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:You give them the room to do
it, but you're also looking for,
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:ways to enhance your organization
by enhancing your employees.
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:that's unusual.
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:It's well above the
curve in my experience.
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:your bio talked about a journey through
A DHD, which we've talked about, and then
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:it mentions a phrase I've not seen before.
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:Accidental sobriety.
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:what does that refer to?
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:Rick Culleton: you know,
that's an interesting story.
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:I was on a path I was having a
lot of anxiety, which I think is,
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:Pretty typical for entrepreneurs.
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:And, sometimes we don't even
realize how much we're living with.
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:And, mine had gotta the point where
I'd wake up in the morning trembling,
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:like literally shaking in bed
and have to get outta bed quickly
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:because it was just gonna get worse.
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:when I'd stop and think about
what was causing the problem,
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:I really couldn't get to it.
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:There were acute things every single day.
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:It was something different.
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:Or sometimes it would be the same things.
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:It could be money, it could
be this, it could be that.
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:And you'd see a recurring theme,
that once this problem left
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:my mind, another one, fill it.
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:and I knew that, these weren't
really problems of the severity
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:that I was giving them credit for.
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:And I received an email one day from a
woman by the name of Julie Hutchinson.
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:it read, would you like to Wake Up Happy?
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:And then the email proceeded to.
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:Sound like she'd been peering
through the windows and watching me
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:because it was just very spot on.
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:And I showed it to my wife and I
said, this is just kind of crazy.
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:And so I responded to the email.
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:It turns out that Julie,
was a family member of some
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:people that I knew very well.
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:two of her family members
had worked for me.
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:One of them, her niece and I
had worked together very closely
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:and had traveled together.
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:And, so that there was a
little bit of trust there.
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:And, I started a course that she
took, called Core Performance.
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:And, was tricked a little bit, maybe
outta my own naivety in, in a few ways.
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:But the first one was that we started
breathing exercises, which is a meditation
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:practice that I still use every day.
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:I do the same, meditation
that we learned back then.
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:Did it today, and I'll do it tomorrow.
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:during this process, as we were getting
in here through this, she told me about
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:a month in, she said, Rick, you know,
you're gonna find, when, when this
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:anxiety leaves and you get all of this
under control, you're probably not
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:even gonna need the alcohol anymore.
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:And I said, whoa, wait a minute.
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:I, I'm not here to quit drinking.
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:I'm perfectly happy with
my alcohol consumption.
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:I've been drinking 38 years and
I have no intention to quit.
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:And, a couple months went by and I
was in Manhattan in my apartment one
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:day and had gone to see an old friend.
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:I bought a bunch of beer that
morning and I loved, IPA still do.
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:I just drink it without the
non-alcoholic version now.
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:And I, I bought some pretty expensive
beer down the street from my apartment,
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:brought it back, put it in the fridge,
walked around town most of the day and
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:came back at about five o'clock threw
it and all the rest of the alcohol down
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:the trash chute from the 45th floor,
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:a hit the bottom and I
never had a drink again.
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:I'm sure I'm still not a hundred
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:Russell Newton: Wow.
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:Rick Culleton: what
caused that to be the day.
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:I mean, it was something
I contemplated before.
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:You know, I always thought, you know,
one day when the doctor tells me that
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:my liver's gonna jump outta my body
or something that I would quit, I
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:drank every single day of my life for
38 years, except for two days when I
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:took my son in a Boy Scout camp out.
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:So it was a pretty major change.
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:Russell Newton: And give us this person
you mentioned Julie is in the business
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:of, she offers seminars and that type of,
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:Rick Culleton: has a, she's got an
ongoing business called Core Performance
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:and runs an evergreen program where
there's always folks coming in and
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:out, and you've got people in all
stages of, this runs About six months.
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:there's a lot more to it than just the
breathing exercises and meditation,
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:but that seemed to be the part
that I needed and really clung to.
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:It's, you know, there's a gadget
that hooks your ear and you
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:measure your results in your phone.
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:And I'm a data guy, so I just love making
the bars move in the right direction.
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:And it was pretty amazing to me that
when I did it right and the things
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:appeared on the screen the way they
were supposed to in the amount of time
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:they were supposed to, how good I felt.
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:And cumulatively, you know, if I did
this day after day, it got better and
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:better and better until, you know,
you have that same, I think a lot of
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:us do this with almost everything.
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:Like, you don't need the cure
anymore because you're fixed.
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:And I got to that point where
I would skip once in a while.
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:I'm like, you know, it very quickly
realized that I needed that, that this
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:was a going to have to be a forever
thing if I was gonna be forever healthy.
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:Russell Newton: About what year was
that, that Julie got in touch with you?
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:Rick Culleton: at the end of the year.
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:Russell Newton: Oh, okay.
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:Rick Culleton: Yes,
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:Russell Newton: recently.
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:Rick Culleton: maybe 15 months
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:Russell Newton: Okay.
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:It just, it struck me with the mindfulness
and the meditation, obviously in our
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:podcast and in our books, there's a lot
of emphasis on mindfulness and achieving
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:that through meditation or through
mindfulness practices and so forth.
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:And you've mentioned an app and feedback
and that brought to my mind, the whole
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:biofeedback, fad that went through.
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:I don't know if you ever had any
dealings with that, but, I remember,
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:popular mechanics or popular science.
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:Had plans to build yourself a
biofeedback machine so that you could
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:monitor your breathing and your body
temperature and learn to control them.
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:And honestly, I haven't seen a meditation
or mindfulness process that had the
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:physical feedback that that has.
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:Is that something of Julie's
or is that, just a another
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:product that she recommends?
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:Rick Culleton: It's, the app
called Inner Balance that we use.
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:the little gadget that hooks to my ear
is made by a company called HeartMath.
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:They have their own app.
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:I think you can use either one of
them and works on a point system.
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:You work up through levels.
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:I started at level one and you
try to get to 400 points and then
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:you'll move up to level two and
level four is as high as it goes.
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:these days I, get 600 points
in as little time as I can.
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:I stay there until I get 600 points.
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:If it's a bad day, that
might be 20 minutes.
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:Uh, if it's a good day, it might be eight.
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:And I, you know, as long I have
found that if I stay the duration
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:and get that much work done, that,
that brings me where I need to be.
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:Russell Newton: A completely
different slant than anything
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:I've heard on mindfulness.
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:Uh.
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:Uh, almost a mindfulness competition.
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:I like that.
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:I like keeping score and, and tracking
the numbers and those kind of things.
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:So it, it, it takes your daily steps, you
know, 10,000 steps a day to a whole new
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:level, kind of in the opposite direction.
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:Rick Culleton: I'm a
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:Russell Newton: Uh, HeartMath was
the name and what was the app it
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:now?
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:Uh,
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:Rick Culleton: Yes,
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:Russell Newton: was the in
ear piece and Inner Peace,
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:inner Balance, inner Balance, and a
HeartMath, uh, produced piece of hardware.
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:Fantastic.
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:Thanks for that.
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:Um, I,
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:sorry, just looking over my notes here.
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:I want to phrase the
next question correctly.
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:Um, so your bio, again, your information,
the journey through A DHD, we talked
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:about at length, accidental sobriety, I.
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:Thanks for that story and
your own personal development.
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:Uh, you now help others find
true and lasting happiness.
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:Does that relate to, another
entrepreneurial adventure you have
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:going is that personal relationships
are, are you a coach or a, a counselor?
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:Rick Culleton: means of doing that
right now is through the second book.
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:but you can find out more
about that1@mymorningstack.com.
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:And then when I did it in the
day seemed to really matter.
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:And I learned within a couple
months that the earlier in the day
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:I did it, the better off I was.
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:That became one of the first things I did.
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:And then I, I, I took that piece that
came from having done the meditation
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:and thought, you know, I'm gonna make
use for the, of this for a little while.
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:And I developed a, morning
stack that I follow.
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:And the second piece of that is something
I call techno fasting, which is where
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:we, you just stay away from technology
for as long as possible in the morning.
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:You don't wake up with a cell phone.
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:But this is where we're going with this,
is to try to help people build their
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:own morning stack and find That comfort
zone, that peace, that can be there.
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:I believe that we're
all happy and peaceful.
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:If you can scrub away all the anxiety
and everything else that we have that's
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:just kind of layered up on top of us.
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:once you clean that slate,
you're left with happiness.
468
:And that's what we're trying to
show is that, you know, you can get
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:to this with just a little bit of
work, but it's a continuing effort.
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:It's not, you know, the gym, you can't
go to the gym for a month every other
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:day and get done at the end of 30 days
and go, look, I'm strong and fit and I'm
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:gonna be great for the rest of my life.
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:And, and.
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:is the same way.
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:You know, it's a, it's a,
it's a lifelong practice.
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:If you want to be mentally healthy, it's
the same as being physically healthy.
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:it's something you need
to work at all the time.
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:You can't eat good one day and
then live on cotton candy and
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:expect to maintain your health.
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:So this is where we're going with this.
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:it's a starter plan that it'll
get you going with your stack
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:and then instructions as to
how you can develop your own.
483
:Russell Newton: Wow.
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:I wanna make sure we have the
books, distinguished and labeled
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:for our listeners, your first book.
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:So let's take a step back.
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:I didn't get the, I didn't
jot down the title for it.
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:I'm not sure that we made it clear,
what it is, what it's about, where
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:it's available, those types of things.
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:Rick Culleton: book was messed
up like You, and it's available
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:on Amazon Barnes, anywhere.
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:Russell Newton: Yes.
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:Rick Culleton: aimed at, people with a
DHD, parents of people with a DHD, maybe
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:someone who has a friend or relative.
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:And it's interesting and
funny at the same time.
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:And I wrote that book aimed at maybe
a younger version of myself, or
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:maybe if I could go back in time and
could have given it to my mother.
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:You know, it's not for everybody,
but if it does fit, I think
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:you'll find it very useful.
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:And the second book
doesn't have a title yet.
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:It will be out this year.
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:but it's more of a guide.
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:it's gonna be a very short, concise,
pocket sized book that is meant to be
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:there as a companion to help you get
through the day, create this foundation,
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:this morning, stack as you can, and
adapt it as you need to, depending on
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:seasons where you live, what you're doing.
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:You know, mine is very involved.
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:my stack today is daunting.
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:And, I enjoy it very much,
but it involves a lot.
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:everything from running to going to the
gym to cold plunge and, it, so it's,
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:you know, it's, it's something that is
obviously evolved over a long period
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:of time for myself, and I'm trying to
give everyone else kind of a starter.
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:you don't need to, you can do 20% of
what I do and get 80% of the results,
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:and that's where we're gonna start.
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:Russell Newton: We talk a lot on
the podcast about an evening ritual,
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:you know, a sleep ritual to get.
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:Wound down from the day
and get your mindset there.
518
:And we talk about morning routine, but
this is morning routine on steroids.
519
:I mean, this is, take us through
your, if you don't mind, what
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:does your average day look like?
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:What are some of these things that you're
doing that you're willing to share?
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:Rick Culleton: I have a special stack that
I brought with me because I'm traveling.
523
:I'm in Europe right now, so I
don't have a cold plunge that
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:could carry around with me.
525
:I'm working on that, but
at the moment, I'm without.
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:So, it starts out pretty easily.
527
:I get up very early, so I'm up at
about normally five 30 in the morning
528
:and, one of the very first things
I do, I drink a glass that's pretty
529
:much salt water, it's got magnesium
in it and so forth to rehydrate.
530
:And then I head outside, not looking
at light through the windows, but
531
:actually get out, get outdoors and
help reinforce my circadian rhythm
532
:and make sure that, you know, I'm
keeping my sleep cycle, in sync.
533
:And then I come back inside and,
meditate for whatever amount of time
534
:it takes me to get my 600 points.
535
:And then I do 25 pushups and I stretch.
536
:I've been nursing an achilles tendon
injury and I just started running again,
537
:so I'm being kind of cautious with that.
538
:I journal after I get done stretching.
539
:I have a quirky thing that I
picked up about a year ago or
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:a little less with my journal.
541
:For the first paragraph I
write with my left hand.
542
:It's a neuroplasticity trick
that, on top of, keeping all
543
:the neurons firing in my brain.
544
:enough, I've learned to write pretty
well with my left hand, even in cursive.
545
:I'm impressed.
546
:I've even impressed myself.
547
:And so, you know, this is probably
where I would leave most of the people
548
:is like, this is where, you know,
if those things work for you, that's
549
:a great foundation for your day.
550
:You know, you're talking
about 40 minutes or less.
551
:So, I think that's that type of stack.
552
:It doesn't need to be those things.
553
:And then where I go from there is,
there's physical exercise every day.
554
:It's either gonna be running or
the gym and I'll go back and forth,
555
:and then I take at least one day
and sometimes two days a week.
556
:To recover.
557
:And I'm a gadget junkie, so I've
got an aura ring on one hand and
558
:a Garmin watch on the other hand.
559
:And, you know, I'm always looking
at the data and I listen to it too.
560
:So when it says, Hey, you need to
back off, time to take it easy.
561
:I do.
562
:I learned, just recently how
important the recovery part was.
563
:I was always go, go, go, go, go
ignore, you know, they're, they're not
564
:talking to me when they say slow down.
565
:So I was pushing it and I started to see
some data signs that looked really bad.
566
:Rate, my resting heart rate was going up,
my heart rate variability was going down.
567
:And so since I've started to listen
to these gadgets a little bit
568
:more closely, I'm doing better.
569
:So, you know, every other day I'll run,
every other day I'll go to the gym.
570
:and then once I finish that routine,
you know, it's then my workday really
571
:starts, you know, so when I get
that stuff out of the way, that's
572
:when I, go and on the computer.
573
:and one thing I left out in that
whole routine is the techno fasting.
574
:And that, you know, I
stay away from the phone.
575
:So my phone stays and do not disturb
all the time, every day, all day.
576
:But I do need to use it in the
morning for the meditation.
577
:I have a tone that plays, so
my breathing is, asynchronous.
578
:It's the same amount of time
in and out, which has been a
579
:very important part for me.
580
:So I do need that gadget for that part.
581
:But, you know, I don't
use it for anything else.
582
:When I'm done with the
meditation, I put it down.
583
:and then, you know, it's usually at
least two hours before I pick something
584
:up electronic or turn on anything where
you've got any screen or any even audible.
585
:I don't even let the news play
in the background or anything
586
:Russell Newton: So you're familiar with
the Garmin, Your recovery today was
587
:delayed by an excessive amount of stress.
588
:you probably used to see that often, but
maybe not so much anymore since you've
589
:gotten things, adjusted a little bit.
590
:Rick Culleton: I still, I'm learning,
I play with a lot of that stuff.
591
:I'm working now on closing that
window of time that I eat, and I
592
:have found the data that comes out
of that to be really interesting too.
593
:my resting heart rate is
dropping earlier in the night.
594
:I still don't get the
amount of deep sleep.
595
:I get enough that I feel very rested.
596
:I'm just not impressed with the numbers.
597
:I rarely get an hour of deep
sleep, and that's a little
598
:troubling I can ask my eight sleep.
599
:I can ask my Aura ring or my Garmin.
600
:They're all gonna tell me I didn't
have enough deep sleep, but.
601
:maybe I'm wired just a little bit.
602
:differently, but I do, I still play
with a lot of that stuff and, you know,
603
:eat, stop eating earlier and earlier
in the day and get that resting heart
604
:rate to drop earlier in the night.
605
:sleep's an incredibly
important part of the day.
606
:You know, we can't even talk
about a morning stack if you
607
:haven't had a good night's sleep.
608
:There's no point at all.
609
:Sometimes I'm just in it, you know,
I go out and see the sun when it's
610
:setting as well as when it's rising.
611
:So you get some of that light, at sunset.
612
:It doesn't be right at sunset, but
it's really important to send that
613
:signal to your brain that this
is the end of the day, especially
614
:for someone who moves around.
615
:And it's not just about going from the
states to Europe, but when I move from
616
:Colorado to New York, that two hours
difference, it's really important that
617
:I get reset, stay reset, then, you know,
if I need to at night, I use this little
618
:electronic gadget that makes you drowsy.
619
:It's got damp sponges.
620
:You put in your temples.
621
:It's called TDCS.
622
:Transcranial something.
623
:anyway, that along with Bin Beats
and knock myself out in seconds.
624
:Literally, I mean, literally
it's probably five minutes with
625
:that stuff and I'm, I'm out.
626
:Russell Newton: Okay.
627
:Yeah, binaural beats have come up
a few times in the, in the podcast.
628
:I find those interesting.
629
:As you were running through your morning
stack, I thought, wow, it, it's gotta
630
:be 10, 10 30, 11 o'clock in the morning
before you're done with these things,
631
:but you're, you've accomplished that in
40 minutes because you're going outside.
632
:It sounds like this is
not a 30 minute walk.
633
:It might be is that, you know, things
you're doing 25 pushups can take,
634
:like, take me half an hour maybe to do.
635
:But your 25 pushups probably take
you about two or three minutes.
636
:Your outside time is probably, I'm
guessing, maybe five or 10 minutes.
637
:So when listeners say, I don't
have time to do all those things
638
:in the morning, any of us can find,
you know, a some amount of time.
639
:nobody has a schedule that's
full on a regular basis.
640
:So to do all that in 40 minutes is great.
641
:it's kind of mind boggling, that
you've perfected things to that point.
642
:Rick Culleton: stay after myself.
643
:I mean, I'm no superhero.
644
:I get distracted, you know, I pet the cat.
645
:You can find a million excuses
not to get into a cold plunge.
646
:I can tell you that firsthand.
647
:when I'm in Texas or almost everywhere.
648
:except on the road, cold
plunge Is part of that too.
649
:But you can stack these in such
a way that on a day that I run.
650
:I don't go outside to get the sunlight.
651
:As soon as I'm done meditating, I got the
running shoes on and I'm out the door.
652
:So I've killed two birds with one stone.
653
:I don't wear my sunglasses.
654
:I'm getting the sunlight that I
need to set my circadian rhythm.
655
:At the same time, I'm getting
the cardio exercise that I need.
656
:Now, if it's a day that I go to the gym,
I'm gonna go outside and walk around.
657
:And if it's bright out, five, seven
minutes is enough for me and then I'm
658
:back inside to continue on with that.
659
:So I don't want to put off getting
to work until too late in the day.
660
:for example, if I'm traveling and I sleep
until eight o'clock, I know that, by 10
661
:o'clock I need to be working because my
brain is only gonna be, its best until
662
:noon, maybe one o'clock in the afternoon.
663
:And then you, you're diminishing returns
for me anyway from that point forward.
664
:So I might break that up.
665
:And on a gym day, I might go to
the gym later in the afternoon.
666
:That might be something
is done later in the day.
667
:' cause the reality is we
all have to work right.
668
:Russell Newton: Is that that is true.
669
:you're like the, the rocky of self-help.
670
:Everything you say are things that
are repeatedly given in our books.
671
:that habit stacking, getting, a
new habit attached to an old habit.
672
:So one flows into another.
673
:Those set routines, a morning routine,
an evening routine, the cold plunge,
674
:even those, the physicality of it, the
mindfulness you're putting into practice.
675
:I'm gonna say 80% of some of the
most common, self-improvement
676
:advice that's out there.
677
:And I find that quite admirable
that you have the motivation and the
678
:determination even on a difficult
day, to get yourself into the process
679
:because you know the payout, you
know the benefit of doing that.
680
:And you know, the downside
of not doing it possibly.
681
:Rick Culleton: I learned a
good lesson on this trip.
682
:I cold plunge all the time,
and this is the longest trip
683
:I've taken in quite a while.
684
:it was an accidental kind of a funny
mistake, but I went to fill the cold
685
:plunge one day, set the timer, said
Google, tell me when, whatever time is up.
686
:And I go upstairs and I hear
the timer go off and I run
687
:down and the tub had overflown.
688
:Luckily the floor, it was a place where
it could get wet, it didn't matter.
689
:I'm like, Ugh.
690
:So I turned the hose
off, let the chiller run.
691
:I just got back in town and I got
in the cold plunge the next day.
692
:The water spills over the top.
693
:It's up to my chin.
694
:43 degrees, 10 minutes.
695
:Couple days later, and I'm like, you know.
696
:My pinky and my right hand doesn't
tingle anymore at all, and my
697
:shoulders feel so much better.
698
:I got here, I'm now 10
days without a cold plunge.
699
:My shoulders are killing me.
700
:I mean, I, I'm 58 years old.
701
:I've fought TaeKwonDo for a decade.
702
:I've been, I have put my body through some
stuff and cold plunge makes me pain free.
703
:I forget about the endorphin
release or the, the weight
704
:Russell Newton: Really.
705
:Rick Culleton: the mental,
I am pain free and it's.
706
:Without it, it came back quick.
707
:I think it was day seven
without a cold bunch.
708
:Like here it comes.
709
:And, the same pain that I've probably
been living with for decades in my
710
:shoulders and neck didn't bother
me that much then, because I was
711
:accustomed to it when it came after.
712
:I've had relief for a
while, and it comes back.
713
:It's just a reinforcer is, and the lesson
behind all that is that, you know, once
714
:you learn the benefits to these things,
to eating healthy, to going to the gym,
715
:to getting enough sleep, it's not hard
to stay focused on them because it just,
716
:you know, do you want a great life?
717
:Do you want to be happy and healthy or
do you not, you know, it's your choice.
718
:Russell Newton: So if you did
TaeKwonDo for a decade, you're what?
719
:Second, third degree did you did?
720
:Rick Culleton: I went to a very
tough school, a very tough school.
721
:I'm a slow learner.
722
:It took me eight of those 10 years
to get my first degree black belt,
723
:and then I enrolled in the second
degree program and couldn't cut it.
724
:I stayed in the school and I taught a lot.
725
:I taught a lot of children.
726
:I really enjoyed that part of it.
727
:but as you, if you read my first book,
it's about me getting my pilot's license.
728
:So to get a pilot's license
is 40 hours of instruction.
729
:it takes more to become a yoga
teacher than a pilot anyway.
730
:to become a pilot takes
40 hours of instruction.
731
:failed my test after two years
and a hundred hours of instruction
732
:and had to go back to school.
733
:I am not the world's fastest learner,
so, a decade to get my, eight of those
734
:10 years just to get my first degree,
but I enjoyed every minute of it.
735
:I love that school.
736
:It was Third Coast Martial Arts in
Austin, You know, all of those programs
737
:probably worked pretty similarly in
that you teach when you get to a certain
738
:level my wife and I taught Little Dragons
together and I taught some older kids too.
739
:But that was a very enjoyable experience
and a very enjoyable part of my life.
740
:Russell Newton: You learn a lot from that.
741
:My kids, all were involved in it,
and then that dragged us into it.
742
:I did it for two or three years.
743
:Our dojo, our school was much more
family oriented, so the testing process
744
:was, A 10th of what yours sounds like
it was in the school you were at.
745
:And I, I'm kind of jealous because
I wished we had been pushed, maybe
746
:not to the level that you were
pushed, but, a little bit more.
747
:but I enjoyed that a lot of the benefits
that you see in some of the things you're
748
:talking about with the mindfulness and
the breathing and that kind of stuff can
749
:be learned in association with a martial
art if your instructor, leans that way.
750
:So, a decade now you're having, on the
physical side of it, you say you're, you
751
:still have continual pain from whatever
activities, but these are things that
752
:are, your workouts are not inducing,
are you working out at that level?
753
:You, you're not sparring or
competing anymore, doesn't sound
754
:like, but are you working out the
level that keeps the pains going?
755
:And that's where the cold plunge comes in.
756
:Rick Culleton: the workouts
are causing the pain.
757
:I fought a lot.
758
:I was in.
759
:the ring every weekend.
760
:I'd go to every tournament I could,
761
:Russell Newton: Yeah.
762
:Rick Culleton: sparring night every night.
763
:And at the time I thought, you
know, I'm loaded up with headgear.
764
:And it's, well, when I recently had a, a
problem and they got in there about two
765
:years ago and took a look, and he's like,
did you have, you had a really traumatic
766
:injury to the right side of your neck?
767
:No.
768
:Nothing at all.
769
:And he showed me the, the picture
and I was like, I don't even really
770
:understand what I'm looking at.
771
:And he goes, well, this, this
calcification on the right side.
772
:This is really bad.
773
:He goes, I, I don't
know what happened here.
774
:I'm like, ah, you know, I did
fight for a few years, but I,
775
:you know, I had headgear on.
776
:And he goes, yeah, that
doesn't help your neck.
777
:So, you know, I'm always getting hit, with
the right foot and The neck took a lot
778
:of the trauma but, it's very manageable.
779
:the cold pl does it.
780
:And I don't have any debilitating, you
know, I've got mild pain and I'm not even
781
:sure that that's where it all came from.
782
:I've had motorcycle accidents and
you name it, my body's been put
783
:through the ringer a few times.
784
:Russell Newton: The fifth or sixth decade
things, have an cumulative effect as you
785
:go through and they build up over time.
786
:Yeah.
787
:The whole, the sparring thing
is addictive, is it not?
788
:Rick Culleton: you know, if there's
anything I've given up in my life, you
789
:know, I was a cyclist for a long time and
790
:Russell Newton: I.
791
:Rick Culleton: there are days that I
miss that, but there's nothing, there's
792
:nothing like sparring there, there's
nothing that brings you so in the moment.
793
:I, I've not?
794
:found another thing that I.
795
:can do that makes me so focused.
796
:you, you're just right there.
797
:You have to be, there is
not a choice, you know?
798
:Yeah.
799
:I've got lots of great memories now.
800
:Russell Newton: I found myself one time
in the preparing for a sparring class,
801
:and I thought as I'm getting ready, I
thought, you know, when I started this,
802
:I came in with a GI and that was it.
803
:You know, I put on the uniform and
went to class, and now here I am, I am
804
:armored up with soft padding everywhere.
805
:You know, I'm taping up toes.
806
:I've got, shin, any, everything from
foot guard to shin guard, all the
807
:way up to the headgear, and you know,
my finger, my hands are wrapped.
808
:It's like.
809
:Where did this evolve from a,
a simple thing into this, this
810
:competition that I've made it.
811
:But yeah, it, it was fantastic.
812
:It was a lot of fun.
813
:and when you get the right
instructor, amazing what they
814
:can do and what you can learn.
815
:We had, I'll indulge myself, myself with
a short story on one of my instructors who
816
:was a third or fourth degree at the time.
817
:and this was in a, a large
TaeKwonDo organization.
818
:So the, the testing was nowhere
near, it was a family oriented,
819
:but he could do things sparring
that just were superhuman to me.
820
:And I learned so much from him,
the amount of ground he could
821
:cover, the control he had.
822
:And I found he could easily break a bone
at any time he wanted with a kick or a
823
:punch, and he would hit you hard enough
that you felt it, that you knew you got
824
:hit, but he would control it enough.
825
:Unless he needed to, that
he wasn't gonna hurt you.
826
:So the right instructor in the right
environment, can really change your life.
827
:Rick Culleton: that is true.
828
:Russell Newton: Yeah.
829
:time has flown by.
830
:We're coming up on about 10 minutes left.
831
:I just want to scan the notes
here 'cause I wanna make sure
832
:I didn't leave out anything.
833
:I think we've covered most of the things.
834
:one thing I did wanna say, mindfulness
and meditation you talked about in a way
835
:that was similar to your morning routine.
836
:These are not things you start on the
first day and go into a 45 minute process.
837
:your mindfulness built up from,
I, I'm assuming if you're like.
838
:you're not like most people, I don't
think, but if you went, maybe you
839
:had a quicker buildup into it than I
would, than I've had when I've worked
840
:on it, but it's, you know, the first
time if you get through two or three
841
:minutes, that's a bit of a victory.
842
:Or when you're building your morning stack
if you get one or two habits and then you
843
:build, do you find it to be cumulative,
something that you work on over a period
844
:of time and it becomes a big part?
845
:Or did you jump into a large
part of it and just to maybe
846
:expand a little bit from there?
847
:Rick Culleton: is something that I.
848
:had to work on.
849
:And like I say, I'm no
different than anybody else.
850
:The meditation was on my list to
do, and in the beginning it didn't
851
:get done in the morning, and it was
oftentimes anxiety causing because
852
:it was on my list of things to do.
853
:And here it is, five o'clock and it hasn't
been done yet, especially when I was still
854
:Russell Newton: I.
855
:Rick Culleton: And six o'clock
is right around the corner.
856
:So you, you know, that
was a big, you know.
857
:I would do it, but it would be
late in the day and it didn't
858
:have quite the same effect.
859
:I would find that, I wasn't
getting the score that I needed.
860
:I wasn't getting the relief from the
anxiety that I had gotten at other times.
861
:And then if we had a scheduled class
or a meeting and I was doing it
862
:earlier in the day, I felt better.
863
:I didn't jump into it at all.
864
:I had no morning routine whatsoever
other than, wiping off my hangover
865
:and heading for the espresso machine.
866
:Russell Newton: And what was
the first thing that you started
867
:that started building your stack?
868
:Rick Culleton: The very first thing
that I did for my stack was pushups.
869
:and I don't even remember
where that started.
870
:Probably inspired by somebody
watching some YouTube video Almost
871
:immediately, within a couple days
of starting with the pushups, I went
872
:into stretching, just because I was
having so much flexibility, so many
873
:flexibility issues all the way around.
874
:And later on when I was having problems
with my Achilles, they reinforce that
875
:thought with, you know, I don't really
have it, and Achilles tendon injury,
876
:it's, the upper chain is just so tight.
877
:I was somebody who just went to
the gym and just lifted all the
878
:time and didn't pay much attention
to anything else other than that.
879
:So that was the next thing.
880
:It was pushups and stretching.
881
:And then I don't even remember
What got put in there next.
882
:the abbreviated version of techno
fasting came on pretty quickly.
883
:I knew the phone and the computer
were big triggers for me.
884
:I would use them all day long to.
885
:Aggravate myself looking at things that
I shouldn't be looking at, whether they
886
:were sales numbers or stock quotes.
887
:it's crazy how self-destructive.
888
:You can become with something like that.
889
:You know, your body's doing something
that you know is gonna do all the
890
:wrong things, just screw up your
endocrine system and send all these
891
:signals that you don't want yet.
892
:You do it anyway.
893
:You know, like putting
your hand on a hot stove.
894
:And so I got to the point where
I was laying back on the tech.
895
:and this is about maybe a couple
weeks into having nothing more than
896
:push up, stretching and a limited
amount of tech in the morning.
897
:I was starting to already feel better.
898
:it was kind of like, you know, I
think there's something to this.
899
:let's see if it sticks.
900
:And I just stayed with that?
901
:for a couple weeks.
902
:And I think the next thing that
I added to it was going outside.
903
:for a while I was standing outside
because I was grounding naturally.
904
:Now, I put a grounding mat under the
computer, and put my feet on it while
905
:I'm working on the computer just to kind
of get one thing outta the way without,
906
:you know, even thinking about it.
907
:Um, but.
908
:Russell Newton: What is that?
909
:What is a grounding mat?
910
:Rick Culleton: the, the frequency that
your body's in, a lot of people believe,
911
:and there's some science behind it, that
you need to put your feet on the earth
912
:for a certain amount of time, barefoot.
913
:Whether it's, it can even be concrete.
914
:It doesn't need to be dirt, you
915
:Russell Newton: Mm-hmm.
916
:Rick Culleton: earth, wet is better,
sand is fine, wet sand is great
917
:and just kind of, for lack of a
better term, sync up with a planet.
918
:That might sound a little Okie-doke,
but that's just kinda what you're
919
:doing is you're getting your body back.
920
:You know, we didn't wear shoes.
921
:I was at an island one time, and
the natives didn't wear shoes.
922
:you could tell the people who had
moved to the island versus the people
923
:who were born there, because the
people born there didn't wear shoes
924
:and the, in the supermarket, in church
anywhere, they never had shoes on.
925
:And I was going outdoors to ground for
a while and get sun at the same time.
926
:and just slowly built it up.
927
:And my stack is ever changing,
you know, it's always evolving.
928
:I've just started running
again in the last month.
929
:So sometimes running and the
sunlight exposure get combined.
930
:I think it's important to be
disciplined, but at the same
931
:time, be sensibly flexible.
932
:If you can make this better and work more
efficiently, make the changes needed,
933
:that doesn't mean get lazy and sit on
the couch, watch Netflix and eat donuts.
934
:it's not something that
needs to be terribly rigid.
935
:Russell Newton: I had one last, I
wanna go back to the cold plunge
936
:thing about the, you have a dedicated
pool, a cold plunge tub or whatever.
937
:What are some substitutes?
938
:If you, if our listeners wanted to get
the advantages of a cold plunge, are
939
:there some things they can do without
investing in the hardware there?
940
:Rick Culleton: used cryotherapy for many
years before I even got into cold plunge.
941
:affordable than cryo is because
I don't have a hundred thousand
942
:dollars cryo chamber in my house.
943
:You can set up your own cold
plunge now for under a thousand.
944
:Russell Newton: no you don't.
945
:Rick Culleton: it is a
more affordable, version.
946
:I.
947
:was paying
948
:Russell Newton: I.
949
:Rick Culleton: every time I walked in
there and getting cryotherapy three
950
:times a week and it made me feel good.
951
:The initial ones, you know, you
didn't even get your head in them
952
:because they were all nitrous
and you couldn't breathe it.
953
:And now, you know, with the, at the latest
version, we're using electric chambers,
954
:which were a little more systemic.
955
:But, there's, in my opinion, and I, I
don't have any data to back this up.
956
:The cold plunge is a much
therapy than, than cryo.
957
:I feel much better using cold plunge,
but there's other things to play.
958
:I use a cold plunge every day, and I
was doing cryo three times a week, so,
959
:you know, there's half a dozen one.
960
:I don't know what's what, but I can
tell you that if you take 10 minutes
961
:at 43 degrees every single day up to
your chin, you're gonna feel amazing.
962
:and it only hurts the first couple times.
963
:it's amazing.
964
:Russell Newton: Interesting.
965
:Rick Culleton: times were
very difficult for me.
966
:You know, I, I one of the people
967
:Russell Newton: Oh, okay.
968
:Rick Culleton: where I tried it
969
:Russell Newton: Okay.
970
:Rick Culleton: was afraid I was gonna pass
out in the thing or panic or whatever.
971
:And I, you know, my goal was to
make it 45 seconds and I made it 30.
972
:And after a while you realize,
look, it's the first 45 seconds
973
:that you feel anything at all.
974
:And when I get in there now, my,
heart rate and my breathing are the
975
:lowest they are all day long while my
respiratory rate and everything else
976
:is the lowest while I'm in that tub.
977
:So it's a relaxing, you know, something
that, I use this as an example for a lot
978
:of things, but when you, when there's
something that you don't want to do,
979
:the hardest part of the cold plunge
is getting your first foot in there.
980
:and there's so much of life that's like
that, you know, once you're in, it's over.
981
:Russell Newton: But isn't that,
yeah, that's, that's 95% of the
982
:things that we dread going into.
983
:And once you get into
it, it's like, oh, okay.
984
:I got this.
985
:I have a few questions that I
say for the end for everybody.
986
:We've gone through one of them
already, I think, but I've, I'm gonna
987
:give you a chance to add to this.
988
:I refer back to Stephen Covey's book, the
Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.
989
:You've listed many things,
and we appreciate that.
990
:The concrete actions that you do
that are non-negotiable in your day.
991
:Is there anything, beyond the ones
we've talked to that you'd like
992
:to add to that, that listeners
should consider implementing?
993
:Rick Culleton: you know, I'm a huge,
994
:Russell Newton: Maybe
we've covered 'em all.
995
:Rick Culleton: so I could go on for days.
996
:Um, you know, everything from Win-win to
keeping it out of the urgent quadrant, you
997
:know, it's just, um, life's an ongoing.
998
:Russell Newton: Oh, that's, yeah,
that's a whole episode in itself.
999
:I appreciate that.
:
00:47:14,259 --> 00:47:17,139
Rick Culleton: life is, um,
is one big lesson, you know?
:
00:47:17,139 --> 00:47:21,399
And if you're willing to, to, to pay
attention and, and learn along the
:
00:47:21,399 --> 00:47:23,589
way, life becomes so much better.
:
00:47:23,649 --> 00:47:28,669
You know, I think when I was a
young man, I looked to, to old age.
:
00:47:28,729 --> 00:47:32,299
What now where I am is what I
thought was old age to, to be
:
00:47:32,299 --> 00:47:33,949
something, to dread and fear.
:
00:47:33,949 --> 00:47:37,009
And I'm so much happier today
than I ever was in life.
:
00:47:37,059 --> 00:47:40,509
and it's because I've learned the way,
you know, as you're going through life,
:
00:47:40,509 --> 00:47:45,519
you pay attention to what makes you feel
good and What, you should do, what you
:
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:47,769
shouldn't do, and then act accordingly.
:
00:47:47,769 --> 00:47:51,249
And it's a great lesson it's something
that's just very, very enjoyable.
:
00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:55,988
Russell Newton: What, if you could
list two or three of the most
:
00:47:55,988 --> 00:47:58,658
influential books, that you've read.
:
00:47:58,758 --> 00:48:01,568
can you give our listeners a rundown
of your top recommended books
:
00:48:01,568 --> 00:48:04,988
that are out there in addition,
of course, to messed up like you.
:
00:48:05,598 --> 00:48:09,284
what else would you recommend for our
listeners, to implement into their lives?
:
00:48:09,584 --> 00:48:14,954
Rick Culleton: that changed my life, um,
were Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.
:
00:48:15,824 --> 00:48:19,484
seven by Dr.
:
00:48:19,484 --> 00:48:24,134
Covey and, uh, rich Dad,
poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.
:
00:48:25,626 --> 00:48:25,976
Russell Newton: Great.
:
00:48:25,976 --> 00:48:26,176
Yeah.
:
00:48:26,176 --> 00:48:29,081
Very well known, very
popular and for good reason.
:
00:48:29,131 --> 00:48:30,331
Some excellent works there.
:
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:34,281
do you think Napoleon Hill is still
as widely regarded today as he
:
00:48:34,281 --> 00:48:37,011
might have been in previous decades?
:
00:48:37,011 --> 00:48:39,711
it is dated, but it is invaluable.
:
00:48:39,722 --> 00:48:43,202
Rick Culleton: You know, I don't know
whether you younger readers are, are,
:
00:48:43,262 --> 00:48:45,332
are, are reading Napoleon Hill or not.
:
00:48:45,332 --> 00:48:49,592
I, I found the stories ENC chanting, you
know, not only with the lessons in there,
:
00:48:49,592 --> 00:48:53,012
but you know, as you're listening to
these stories and you know, he's talking
:
00:48:53,012 --> 00:48:57,002
to Edison and Firestone and four, I mean,
it was just, and the stories about those
:
00:48:57,002 --> 00:49:05,282
guys being together you know, I think
about that time and those people at that
:
00:49:05,282 --> 00:49:11,502
moment and the people today, I don't wanna
create any controversy in your podcast,
:
00:49:11,502 --> 00:49:14,802
but the people today to me represent.
:
00:49:15,732 --> 00:49:19,342
we have great things happening
now that are gonna dwarf that.
:
00:49:19,342 --> 00:49:24,012
And that was an incredible time, you
know, the stories of Edison and Ford
:
00:49:24,012 --> 00:49:28,542
and all of these guys it was just a
magical time and a magical place to be.
:
00:49:28,542 --> 00:49:32,532
And to hear Napoleon Hill describe all
these things and how he got himself
:
00:49:32,532 --> 00:49:35,892
through the door to talk to all these
people was just as enchanting as
:
00:49:35,892 --> 00:49:37,452
the lessons that he had to give you.
:
00:49:37,452 --> 00:49:41,482
And his lessons are, so simple
that they'll apply forever.
:
00:49:41,782 --> 00:49:44,962
Russell Newton: and, a last thing and
then we'll use this as a sign off.
:
00:49:46,342 --> 00:49:51,902
I tend to think in conversations
our guests have a question, maybe
:
00:49:51,902 --> 00:49:52,832
that is a favorite question.
:
00:49:52,832 --> 00:49:56,412
One, they look forward to answering
or, something they hope to bring
:
00:49:56,412 --> 00:50:00,652
up in any podcast, that I might
not have brought to the fore.
:
00:50:00,652 --> 00:50:05,162
Something you wanna mention, a plug you
wanna make, or a final piece of advice
:
00:50:05,162 --> 00:50:06,662
that you would leave our listeners with.
:
00:50:07,272 --> 00:50:10,332
if you have something in mind
there, we'd really appreciate
:
00:50:10,332 --> 00:50:11,172
you sharing that with us.
:
00:50:11,172 --> 00:50:13,442
And then, after that I
think we'll sign off.
:
00:50:13,573 --> 00:50:16,193
Rick Culleton: thing that I'd like to
finish with is that, wherever you are in
:
00:50:16,193 --> 00:50:19,713
life and whatever you've been through, it
has nothing to do with where you're going.
:
00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:24,233
past has no bearing on your future,
and you're free to change the direction
:
00:50:24,233 --> 00:50:25,823
you're headed at any time you want.
:
00:50:26,564 --> 00:50:26,784
Russell Newton: Wow.
:
00:50:28,265 --> 00:50:28,385
Rick Culleton: I.
:
00:50:28,554 --> 00:50:32,479
Russell Newton: Simple
but amazingly powerful.
:
00:50:32,479 --> 00:50:33,229
that's great.
:
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:34,069
Rick.
:
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:39,599
Rick Coton with us today, author
of Messed Up, like You Currently
:
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:44,079
Available, and another book in the
works entitled The Mornings Stack,
:
00:50:44,180 --> 00:50:45,850
Rick Culleton: a website,
my mornings stack.com
:
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:46,690
Russell Newton: the website.
:
00:50:46,881 --> 00:50:47,271
Rick Culleton: and,
:
00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:47,770
Russell Newton: Okay.
:
00:50:48,261 --> 00:50:49,581
Rick Culleton: we're still
working on the title.
:
00:50:49,661 --> 00:50:52,481
I think that'll be the last thing,
the second to the last thing that
:
00:50:52,481 --> 00:50:56,711
happens right before, 'cause we need
that for the cover, but be at the end.
:
00:50:57,540 --> 00:50:57,900
Russell Newton: Okay.
:
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:58,380
All right.
:
00:50:58,380 --> 00:50:59,010
that works.
:
00:51:00,130 --> 00:51:01,450
a very YouTube approach, right?
:
00:51:01,450 --> 00:51:05,820
Get your content, then make your marketing
material or make what's seen most.
:
00:51:06,270 --> 00:51:07,320
Rick, thank you very much.
:
00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:09,220
A fascinating, conversation.
:
00:51:09,490 --> 00:51:10,420
Thank you for your time.
:
00:51:10,810 --> 00:51:13,690
Listeners, thanks for joining us,
and we'll see you again next week.